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Initial victory in the Julea Ward case! Yes!

January 28, 2012

A small, but very important victory in the Julea Ward case.

Today we can celebrate the initial reversal of the dismissal decision in the lawsuit.

You can read the decision by Judge Sutton here:

http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/12a0024p-06.pdf?utm_source=January+27%2C+2012+-+Press+Release%3A+Ward+v.+Polite+Decision&utm_campaign=NAS+E-Newsletter&utm_medium=email

MICHIGAN — A university that expelled a Christian graduate student from its counseling program because she refused to affirm homosexual relationships may have violated her Constitutional rights, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled today.

The ruling, which gives former Eastern Michigan University student Julea Ward a chance to present her case before a jury, was hailed as a "major victory" for individuals of faith by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the case.

Costa Concordia - the plot hasn’t even begun to thicken yet- but many intriguing clues are afloat

January 25, 2012

Like many people, I’ve been stunned and intrigued by the Costa Concordia disaster. It starts with the fact that this is a major disaster, or so it is called, with a ship that has not sunk. And it just sits there, hugely protruding from the rocks, in shallow waters. When you look at the diagrams, you realize just how much of the ship is above the water. Sure, it lies at a steep angle, responsible for having caused much havoc with the rescue, the ensuing panic, and the malfunctioning lifeboats. But the monumental ship hasn’t gone anywhere, and certainly not to the bottom of the ocean. That several people lost their lives in a boat being stuck practically ashore is particularly sad.

The Captain intrigues. Yes, he was after saving his own skin, but could it be that he was really intent on saving a cover-up? His laptop has now disappeared. If this is true, what’s on the Captain’s laptop? Could he have been involved in some criminal activity or did his computer "merely" contain proof of his negligence, etc, that he was trying to hide? There have been reports of stowaways on the cruise. Is it true?

"We have so far identified eight bodies - the prefect tells Franco Gabrielli, head of Civil Protection -. Then there are five more bodies to be identified. And we lost 24 officers and a Hungarian woman that do not appear on the lists of the company. " Then his admission: "There may be several people who were all aboard the ship who might be illegal," said Gabrielli.

[Corrections added and made because of this news article: http://archiviostorico.corriere.it/2012/gennaio/23/mistero_della_donna_con_computer_co_8_120123034.shtml]

So it’s not the young Eastern European woman, but another older woman who introduced herself as his corporate lawyer who took the Captain and his computer from the hands of the police. Her image has been deleted–privacy regulations of a hotel? Ha–suspicious excuse. I think the captain is now negotiating with the company: if you stick it all on me, I’ll tell everything I know about you. What else can he leverage?

They seem as equally disgusting to me.

The cruise company seems just as guilty and selfish as the captain, if not more. My guess is that they are even more ruthless and despicable. And perhaps because the captain knew what his people at the top were like, he decided that risking his life over the accident, which apparently was a result of the company’s management encouraging captains to showboat, wasn’t worth it. Throw the poor passengers under the bus (or under the ship, if you will), then.

The multiple phone calls between the captain and his command after the ship was in trouble are suspicious. There are reports that Costa tried to delay the Mayday call because it would make them lose a lot of money, and also because if called too early, it could cause unnecessary panic that could also endanger lives. We all saw a glimpse of how much panicking worsened the problems of the Costa. What is sad is that people don’t panic because they choose to, but because they lose control. It takes many more concerted, well thought actions to help people in a panic state to bring down the level of panic than simply telling them not to panic. Since panic is usually largely unconscious, sometimes irrational, and intensely emotional, simply saying a stupid phrase (in context) as "don’t panic" won’t do much to effectively help hundreds of people who have panicked.

update Jan 26-

Cruise liner operator knew of Costa Concordia collision within minutes

Surprise, surprise.

end of update

Then there is the question of all the senior crew on the ship. If the captain did run away, you still had a lot of senior crew left to do something and take command. Why don’t we hear anything about what they did? Where were they?

Yes, I’ve read some very beautiful and dramatic stories of people being heroes during the tragedy. They are inspiring. However, there were also reports of cowardly and ruthless crew and passengers. Obviously, these individuals have not been identified by the media, only the heroes have.

4,000 people on a ship and there are a lot of stories, a lot of people have not said anything. There was a lot more rotting on this cruise ship than a cowardly captain.

Ah, and here we have:

Rich Russians allegedly paid “wads of cash” to the Costa Concordia crew to get on lifeboats as the cruise ship began to capsize. Italian officials have reportedly taken evidence from other passengers that the holidaymakers paid off crewmen to get on the lifeboats before women and children. According to The Sun, eyewitnesses to the evacuation claimed to have seen Russians from first-class cabins paying off crewmen “as the disabled were left to fend for themselves”.

And the reports that crew pushed women and children out of the way to get into the lifeboats first.

There is a lot more to the accident than a cowardly captain, and we haven’t even begun to scratch the surface.

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Homosexual activists attempt to censor psychologist’s book backfires! Victory for freemdom of speech

January 13, 2012

by Matthew Cullinan Hoffman (LifeSiteNews.com) -

A campaign waged by homosexuals in Spain to suppress a book about reparative therapy for homosexuality has backfired, generating media coverage that has drawn new attention to the formerly ignored work.

(Ha!)

As a result, the publisher says that it has been overwhelmed by requests for the book and is now in the process of printing 7,000 more copies.

(Good for him!)

“Understanding and Healing Homosexuality,” which has been available since 2004 in Spanish, became the object of protest in Spain in December when the book was republished by Libros Libres and the new edition appeared in the catalogs of such online booksellers as Amazon, La Casa del Libro (the House of Books), and El Corte Inglés (The English Cut).

The book, written by therapist Richard Cohen, discusses Cohen’s own liberation from homosexual attraction, what he regards as the principal causes of the problem, and methods for bringing about the healing of same-sex desires.

The appearance of the new edition sparked a protest on Twitter and other Internet media, including a petition that gathered tens of thousands of signatures demanding the removal of the book. Reporting on the campaign in the Spanish news media began on December 27th and has continued unabated.

Although the campaign has achieved the removal of the book from the offerings of La Corte Inglés, it also led newspapers, including the leftist El Pais, to do interviews with Cohen, in which he was given ample space to discuss his experience of liberation from homosexuality and the success of his therapeutic methods.

One liberal commentator, writing for Canarias 24 Horas, complains that “the campaign that has been undertaken on the net - at this moment on the Actuable website they have collected more than 47,000 signatures so that these online stores will withdraw it (the book) - seems to me to be not only to be foolish but sadly has given completely free publicity to a book that, based as it is on certain repugnant premises, had passed unnoticed by the majority for eight years.”

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The only that is repugnant here is the attempt to censor Cohen’s book, his voice, his experience and to engage in a smear campaign of him.

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Sexual predators - time to pass civil commitment laws?

January 12, 2012

An interesting question debated in this Tulsaworld.com article: Time to pass civil commitment law for sexual predators

I don’t know what the answer should be. In reading some of the comments, it’s clear that this is a very complicated question, but this is no reason for NOT modifying and improving the current faulty and ineffective system we have. We need to have less recidivism, even if it means through commitment, and we need fewer wrong commitment cases.

It’s nice to see at least someone discussing the issue in the media, though.

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“I’m Not Gay, I’m Just a Sissy” calendar banned - thanks to pinktards

December 31, 2011

The latest censorship action because of the homosexual agenda: liberals had been jumping up and down and waving their pink clubs to have a calendar banned.
“I’m Not Gay, I’m Just a Sissy” wall calendar by Christian cartoonist Joe King.

http://www.towleroad.com/2011/12/barnes-noble-pulls-offensive-sissy-calendar-from-online-store.html

So now if I wanted a calendar, thanks to these sexuality disoriented ninnies throwing their hissy and sissy tantrum, I can’t.

Homosexual fanaticism is alive and well, in its most fascist expressions.

King has responded to the censorship attacks on his Facebook page:

Hoo-we! Hell hath no fury like a he/she scorned… The telephone tree of tantrums is lit up like a Las Vegas marquee for “Boy-Lesque” today with hate mail, threats of boycott and even the risk of Jesus spitting on me for my “Sissy” calendar. I SAID I WAS A SISSY UP FRONT. Ironic who the real bullies are isn’t it? Let’s see if I get a call from Oprah’s people or even Anderson Cooper…

Like most bullies bluffs, the facts outweigh the fists: with almost 100 hissy-fits being thrown today only a couple of my calendars are in actual circulation.

I like his sense of humor

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Homosexuality and Pedophilia - Liberals Spreading their Lies Ad Naseum

One more absolutely harmful liberal article spreading propaganda that seeks to lie about any case of homosexuals involved in sexual abuse, mostly concerning children, but obviously that works its way into attitudes about adults.

According to the American Psychological Association, there is no relationship between child sexual abuse and homosexuality.

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The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be a homosexual.

Mr. Piazza’s letter made a statement about forced compliance of students who are paired with an LGBTQ roommate and labeled as “homophobes.” Incidents of on-campus peer bullying have resulted in a demonstrably high suicide rate among LGBTQ students and exemplify our culture’s tolerance and encouragement of hate in the name of “God.”

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As a professional educator, licensed and credentialed practitioner within my field which specializes in traumatology and victimology, as well as an advocate for victims’ rights, I believe it’s important to assist our students into developing into caring, compassionate and community-oriented individuals.

Marie Gray, of Cornerstone Counseling & Consulting Specialists near Dallas, is a psychologist and board certified expert in both traumatic stress and sexual abuse.

I just copied and pasted the comments that were more relevant to show how awful and brainwashed so many of the liberals are. I’ll put my first comment on the top, because it basically underscored my main point.

I tried answering to a few of the other comments, but several of my replies were CENSORED! By the "tolerant" people, who cannot ever respect freedom of debate or speech.

I had saved one, which I’ve copied below. I’ll answer more if I have time later.

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Alessandra 1 week ago

"The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be a homosexual."

You should be ashamed of writing such nonsense and enabling all the cases where homosexuals abuse or harass children, adolescents or adults.

The Catholic Church scandal’s data shows that 80% of the perpetrators were homosexual men who abused or exploited male adolescents. The Frank Lombard case shows to what extent homosexuals can be monsters, who specifically adopt children in order to sexually torture them. If Lombard hadn’t bragged about the raping of his own son and tried to pimp him out to other monsters like him, people like you would have said he and his turd of a homosexual husband were just wonderful people. Lombard does not appear in any "research to date," at not least not the kind that disingenuous professionals like yourself publish. So, first you ignore and lie about all the cases that exist, then you don’t include them in the sham you call research and finally you gleefully turn you back on all victims of homosexual (or bisexual) perpetrators given your fanaticism to normalize homosexuality.

"As a professional educator, licensed and credentialed practitioner within my field which specializes in traumatology and victimology, as well as an advocate for victims’ rights," You are simply a DISGRACE.

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Douglas H Wildoner 1 week ago in reply to Alessandra

Funny that you would refer to an organization so adept and willing to hide its ‘dirty laundry’ by paying bribes, moving the criminals to new regions and so forth.   That being said, can you claim that ‘heterosexuals’ have never molested or attacked children?   There’s an old saying about glass houses and stones… think about it.

Alessandra 1 week ago in reply to Douglas H Wildoner

Mr Wildoner,

" That being said, can you claim that ‘heterosexuals’ have never molested or attacked children?   There’s an old saying about glass houses and stones… think about it."



The day you start spewing the same kind of garbage about heterosexuals NOT abusing anyone that you do to cover up every single crime and harmful act perpetrated by homosexuals or bisexuals, I’ll be happy to point out to you that your cover-up is a disgrace.Until then, shame on anyone who lies about just how violent, abusive, or harmful homosexuals or bisexuals are. Shame on you for throwing every single one of the victims under the bus, because of your fanaticism with homosexuality.

whatsmyparty 1 week ago in reply to Alessandra

How quickly you throw the stewards of God’s word under the bus and lump them into a broad-brushed category the religious right often describes as ‘homosexual-activist-shoving-down-my-throat-perverted-sinners-wanting-to-indoctrinate-my-children-into-their-deviant-lifestyle."

If what you’re claiming to be true, that "80% of the perpetrators were homosexual men," then the crusade against our local gay hairdressers and thespians would be an utter waste of time. What you’re telling us, is that we should question men who identify as celibate or straight because, after all, they are the ones committing such abuse. These priests never claim to be gay. In fact, they give sermons against it. Somehow a male priest abusing a little boy makes him a homosexual to you. I think it just makes him a sick individual.

You take one case of abuse and claim it’s some radical homosexual agenda to adopt and abuse children systematically. Do you know how many cases of child abuse from their hetero parents were reported today alone?! If you truly cared for the children, you wouldn’t go on a jihad against the LGBT community. You’d advocate for good parents, regardless of gender.

Also, the terms homosexual and heterosexual are typically reserved for consensual acts between individuals. Pedophiles abuse children. They abuse little boys and little girls and the child’s gender hardly matters. It sickens me that people like you probably hope the next priest scandal is man on boy such that you can tick your statistic up to 81%. It’s all abuse, by those who claim they are safe, who claim homosexuality is wrong, who claim God is love. Maybe you’re persecuting the wrong people, Alessandra.

Alessandra 1 week ago in reply to whatsmyparty

whatsmyparty "These priests never claim to be gay."

Read the reports and the data before spitting out your ignorance and made-up nonsense on here.

" Somehow a male priest abusing a little boy makes him a homosexual to you. A sixteen year old male adolescent is not a little boy. "These priests never claim to be gay. In fact, they give sermons against it. "Wrong again. And if you think that because a priest gives sermons against sex outside marriage, that no priest ever has sex outside marriage, nor abuses anyone, nor gets anyone pregnant, it shows you are even more out of touch with reality than they are.

And your comment does beg the question: how many cases of sexual abuse, harassment and exploitation by homosexuals do you cover up in life?

whatsmyparty 1 week ago in reply to Alessandra

I’m sorry Alessandra - I should have read your blog before engaging. The Pink Swastika crowd is too far off the deep end to argue with. The reports you cite are written by some of the most biased, LGBT hating pens out there. All I can tell you, someone with true "homosexual" life experience, is that there is no wicked agenda to indoctrinate you, your children, or your community. We walk our dogs, pay our taxes, and enjoy a holiday meal with our families, just like you. I don’t think you’ll ever see it that way, but I suppose when you have nothing left to fight for, you find something to fight against.

Alessandra 1 week ago in reply to whatsmyparty

whatsmyparty : "All I can tell you, someone with true "homosexual" life experience, is that there is no wicked agenda to indoctrinate you, your children, or your community."

Especially if you lie about the existence of Frank Lombard and the millions of other harassing, harmful, violent homosexuals like him. And what do you call the people who hand over little children to be sexually tortured by homosexuals through adoption because of their homosexual agenda?

The only thing you care about in this world is your egotistical, bigoted self. This is why the US is such a violent country, where there is so much suffering.

You would like everyone to be like you, snotty and snorting your little privileges and neglect, but I’ll pass. Fighting against the sexual abuse, the harassment, the exploitation, the destructive attitudes and behaviors that liberals continue to bring about about in society is something very worthy, not that you and Frank Lombard can understand.

whatsmyparty 1 week ago in reply to Alessandra

Ah, yes, the one person did it so the rest must be like it argument (I like how you inject the word "millions" into your argument when it benefits you, despite the fact that you probably have uttered the phase "Homosexuals are less than 0.1% of the population").

Why just a few days ago, a black man set a woman on fire. With your logic, all black people are bad. And surely, you must agree that all women are unfit parents. Look at Andrea Yates - she killed all her children. Pretty soon, when we use your logic, we find no one is fit to be around children. Frankly, I think your type is the only one who truly fits that bill.

You hang onto that Frank Lombard case. I’m sure you’ll have to use it plenty of time when you run into "snotty" people like me. In your mission to demonize LGBT individuals, you are allowing the true abusers to pass as wolves in sheep’s clothing. As long as they carry a cross and don’t get caught, right Alessandra?

PS - Thanks for calling me "snotty." I’ve found when the social conservatives call folks like me "snotty" or "elitist," it typically means we’re making arguments that reflect our good education and squash the ones you’ve built on a foundation of lies, bigotry, and hatred.

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whatsmyparty in reply to Alessandra: Ah, yes, the one person did it so the rest must be like it argument (I like how you inject the word "millions" into your argument when it benefits you, despite the fact that YOU PROBABLY HAVE uttered the phase "Homosexuals are less than 0.1% of the population").

Alessandra: If you can’t make up stuff about what I said, you have nothing to say at all.

There have been millions of acts of all kinds of violence, sexual aggression, and sexual harassment perpetrated by homosexuals. You want to lie about them all, oh excuse me, all but one.

It’s your irresponsible lying that needs to be exposed.

And this is another one of your lies: "one person did it so the rest must be like it" argument. You said it, not me.

Wouldn’t it be nice if you actually could say something that’s true?

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Alessandra in reply to whatsmyparty:

whatsmyparty, You hang on to your COVER-UP about that Frank Lombard case (and all the other millions of cases of violence and harassment perpetrated by homosexuals). I’m sure you’ll have to use it plenty of time when you run into "bigoted" people like me. In your mission to demonize social conservative individuals and coddle homosexual criminals, you are allowing the true abusers to pass as wolves in sheep’s clothing. As long as they carry a rainbow and don’t get caught, right whatsmyparty?

PS - Thanks for calling me a "hater." I’ve found when people with a homosexual agenda call folks like me "haters" or "bigots," it typically means we’re making arguments that reflect our good education and squash the ones you’ve built on your foundation of lies, bigotry, and hatred (not to mention your enthusiastic cover up of a million cases of violence).

My post earlier in the thread:

"The reason why the APA is so destructive is that they work exactly in the sense of creating a stereotype that negates all cases of homosexuals sexually abusing, exploiting or harassing others in society. They are doing exactly the same thing that the CATHOLIC CHURCH did regarding priests, affirming again and again that priests could not be capable of abusing anyone. HOW DISGUSTING it is to watch these homosexuality fanatics do the SAME THING all over again."

whatsmyparty: "As long as they carry a CROSS and don’t get caught, right Alessandra?"

Maybe someday you will learn how to read, whatsmyparty.

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sunnyincc in reply to whatsmyparty

The gay and lesbian (and trans ridiculousness) community are coming through loud and clear…religion bashing intolerants who only see one side…theirs. I guess diversity is only, well, diverse when its that of the lgbt and whatever other ‘letters’ of tolerance will be next in line. Seems to me the only individuals not allowed in the diversity ring are anyone who doesn’t give y’all a big hug for sharing your homosexuality every day. Hetero’s that don’t celebrate you are labeled .   Those of us with a religious, core belief system…well, that’s not accepted either… Isn’t there room for all of us?

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Alessandra SENT ON 31 DEC 2011 - WAITING TO SEE IF IT WILL BE CENSORED

jnaro: Being ‘attracted’ to children and being attracted to someone of the same sex are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. They are not related at all. People today are so judgmental and ignorant. It pisses me off.

Pam Newell Hemann : Pedophiles are pedophiles and homosexuals are homosexuals.

Kenneth Clark

Pedophiles are pedophiles and that is a different class of people,

Nicolas321: Gay men and women are NOT pedophiles, period.

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Douglas H Wildoner :
I haven’t seen ANYONE claiming that homosexuals CAN’T be pedophiles…

Mr. Wildoner, the level of lying you engage in is pathetic and very harmful.

You and Marie have no shame whatsoever for how irresponsible and damaging the lies you spread on here are.

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Alessandra 1 week ago

"According to the American Psychological Association, there is no relationship between child sexual abuse and homosexuality."

The APA is an irresponsible, extremely unconscionable organization, with a political agenda which does great harm to society, especially concerning issues related to sexuality.

People with a healthy sexuality do not abuse, harass or exploit children, adolescents or adults. Child sexual abuse is a result of a deformed sexuality. Thus in cases of homosexual pedophiles, homosexual child abuse is a result of their deformed sexuality–their profound problems include being both incapable of a healthy heterosexual sexuality as well as a healthy adult sexuality.

Frank Lombard is a homosexual and a homosexual pedophile monster. His example alone renders the phrase "there is no relationship between child sexual abuse and homosexuality" basically meaningless.

The reason why the APA is so destructive is that they work exactly in the sense of creating a stereotype that negates all cases of homosexuals sexually abusing, exploiting or harassing others in society. They are doing exactly the same thing that the Catholic Church did regarding priests, affirming again and again that priests could not be capable of abusing anyone.

How disgusting it is to watch these homosexuality fanatics do the same thing all over again.

Douglas H Wildoner 1 week ago in reply to Alessandra

"Alessandra"…..    Throughout every post you have made there is a consistency. That is your ASSUmption that homosexuality = pedophilia.   Homosexuality is a sexual orientation wherein a person is sexually oriented towards others of the same gender.   Pedophilia (properly) is a PHILIA (literally "love or affection" but usually inferring an "abnormal or unnatural attraction" toward prepubescent children. It is often used to label anyone who has sexual fantasies or acts on desires about youths… while it would be more correct to use the terms hebephilia for pubescents and and ephebophila for adolescents.

A pedophile is simply a rapist…. he/she may simply force him/herself upon a child. Often he/she uses guile to entice a child into a sexual situation. It may be promising a reward or bribe, it may be using the child’s respect for elders to convince the child that the action is appropriate. However it occurs, it is simply wrong…. most pedophiles aren’t looking for a specific ‘gender’, rather they are simply looking for a child that can be manipulated.

I haven’t seen ANYONE claiming that homosexuals CAN’T be pedophiles… however, I have seen asinine remarks by you and others that suggest or blatantly state that ALL homosexuals are pedophiles.

You continue to bleat about ONE case… Frank Lombard, from Duke University. Perhaps you might want to look at the transcript of the police report… therein, you’ll find that his same-sex partner’s name has been redacted. That is because the man was innocent of any such actions and in fact was completely unaware of what was happening.   Obviously, your remarks that homosexuality = pedophilia are faulty.

Why does it happen that EVERYONE remembers when a homosexual is also a pedophile? Because ignorant bigots such as yourself carry on so….    A child sexually abused by a heterosexual is mentioned and forgotten…. priests abuse young girls too, but the HUGE news is when its a boy child.

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Alessandra SENT ON 31 DEC 2011 - WAITING TO SEE IF IT WILL BE CENSORED

Douglas H Wildoner :That is your ASSUmption that homosexuality = pedophilia.

Is it possible for you not to make such ASSumptions? It’s not my fault you make up such lies about what I think. It’s your fault. If you ever have anything to argue about what I wrote here, which is not a lie, I challenge you to do so.

DrDuffy 1 week ago in reply to Alessandra

The APA is destructive? Interesting perspective.
Despite it being a normative force in the academic discipline and practice of psychology since 1892, In Washington, DC alone, where its headquarters are located, APA staff have
- volunteered hundreds of hours of work to the local chapter of Habitat for Humanity
-provided free parenting coordinator services to local residents involved in child custody disputes
- hired local residents through Green Door, a Washington, D.C.-based mental health services agency that helps people with serious mental illness find employment and housing
- volunteered at So Others Might Eat, serving breakfast to the homeless and poor
- donated school supplies to low-income neighborhood elementary schools, including donating hundreds of used and refurbished computers to both schools, police stations and community centers.
If this agency is destructive, I guess someone should inform Webster’s to rewrite some its definitions…

Alessandra 1 week ago in reply to DrDuffy

Perhaps you might like to address any of the issues I have raised next time.
Unless you agree, of course.

DrDuffy 1 week ago in reply to Alessandra

What I agree with is fact. Facts regarding the positive social contributions made by members of scholarly organizations like the APA. Irresponsible use of hyperbolic rhetoric may be entertaining, but it is little else.

Alessandra 1 week ago in reply to DrDuffy

You ran away from addressing the reason why I said the APA was destructive. What’s the matter you don’t have any facts to counter-argue with?

jnaro 1 week ago

Being ‘attracted’ to children and being attracted to someone of the same sex are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. They are not related at all. People today are so judgmental and ignorant. It pisses me off.

tomaig 1 week ago

http://www.courant.com/news/co…
So it was just a coincidence that his CT "couple" happened to only adopt boys?

Karla Porter 1 week ago

Sexual orientation doesn’t discriminate when it comes to sexual abuse of children. The sexual orientation of the pedophile isn’t the ‘cause’ of the crime, the forced sexual act is. If you would like more education on the subject, the Mayo Clinic has published A Profile of Pedophilia: Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism, Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues. Rather than pounding Marie Gray as a ‘disgrace’ perhaps take some time to read this report from a noted and much admired institution of medicine
http://www.mayoclinicproceedin… and see that her points are quite valid.

As an aside, I have to wonder about the justice of all this hate.. do you also hate heterosexual men who sexually abuse little girls or is it just homosexual men who sexually abuse boys?

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MY CENSORED REPLY:

Karla, I suppose you can’t even address the person you’re talking to by name.

"As an aside, I have to wonder about the justice of all this hate.. do you also hate heterosexual men who sexually abuse little girls ?"

If you are talking to me (since you mention "disgrace"), the answer is yes. Excuse me, but I am not the vile stereotype you were desperate to pin on me. That ugly stereotype is a product of your "lovely" mind.

Do you always try to smear a person’s motives if they point out to how much people like Marie are irresponsible and harmful?

Do you think it would strengthen my comment if I acted in the same way and suggested the reason why you were attacking me could be because you are a child abuser yourself and you hate to have anyone push for visibility and accountability in cases of pedophilia? We can all play this "let’s wonder what slimy motive you might have for saying anything here" game…

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Joanne Lynn 1 week ago

Thanks Marie Gray for writing this article, I remember when this story originally broke all the ignorant comments below it on yahoo news and on another article Texas Macy’s Employee Fired for Allegedly Violating Store’s LGBT Policy as I posted on yahoo than still apply today..
My original yahoo post to this story…when it broke.
"humm
sorry to point out no homosexuality and pedophilia do not go hand in hand..many pedophiles, like "priests" and "pastors" have been found str8 but pedophiles.. this has been a rumor passed on by "christians" and fear mongers for
ages without proof or stats.. moreover most people in the TLGB community would kick this guys butt i know I would!!!"

Pam Newell Hemann 1 week ago

I must say that I agree with Marie. It is ridiculous to insinuate that all homosexual males are pedophiles. Pedophiles are pedophiles and homosexuals are homosexuals. Homophobia is no different than racial or ethnic profiling. Unfortunately, I have come across many people who were sexually abused in their childhood. Their abusers were heterosexual males who were married /family men who no one would believe would do such heinous deed. It’s time to stop generalizing and stereotyping people into categories that make a person feel better about themselves and their distorted beliefs. And before I get people thumping their Bibles at me, just know that I am a Christian.

Alessandra 1 week ago in reply to Pam Newell Hemann

Pam Newell Hemann " It is ridiculous to insinuate that all homosexual males are pedophiles. Pedophiles are pedophiles and
homosexuals are homosexuals."

What is ridiculous is to lie that homosexuals never sexually abuse, exploit or harass anyone. Covering up and lying about sexual crimes and destructive behavior is not part of Christianity, but perhaps you’ve missed that lesson.

"Pedophiles are pedophiles and homosexuals are homosexuals."



The Frank Lombard case shows to what extent homosexuals can be monsters,
who specifically adopt children in order to sexually torture them. If
Lombard hadn’t bragged about the raping of his own son and tried to pimp
him out to other monsters like him, people like you would have said he
and his turd of a homosexual husband were just wonderful people, "homosexuals" and not "pedophiles."Enabling and colluding with homosexual pedophiles, sexual harassers and exploiters by going into denial of what they are doing is not part of Christianity.

Osvaldo Jerez 1 week ago

If we classify a person heter/homo based on which adult gender they sexually prefer, then the article is correct. If a homosexual is a person who desires adult males and a heterosexual is a person who desires adult females, then most pedophiles are heterosexual. Every study done to date confirms this.

The main thing I disagree with the author is her view of a literalist interpretation of the Bible. Ironically, a literalist interpretation of the Bible is extremely gay friendly. See www.PaulOnHomosexuality.com for some incredible videos on this.

Alessandra 1 week ago in reply to Osvaldo Jerez

"If we classify a person heter/homo based on which adult gender they sexually prefer, then the article is correct. If a homosexual is a person who desires adult males and a heterosexual is a person who desires adult females, then most pedophiles are heterosexual. Every study done to date confirms this."

Every made-up nonsense you like to write here, you mean.

11TonyCavallo22 1 week ago

I guess we are now going to start splitting hairs between the recognition of different kinds of degenerate behavior.

What will the slogans be? "I don’t condone kiddie porn, but pre-pubescent is okay"
"I am not a homosexual degenerate, I go either way" and so many other clever cliches, yes?

This sort of crapola is sickening. A degenerate by any other name is still a degenerate.

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John Moser 1 week ago

So men who rape little boys are really closet heterosexuals?   Hmmm…

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gtb6666 1 week ago

Marie, you and the APA are full of crap. The nature of the sex acts alleged is itself deviant as are those of the homosexual community itself. My beliefs are not scientific, just common sense. Homosexual acts became justified only when enough homosexuals joined the APA. Similarly, Global warming, change or whatever became
credible only when enough believers got on the gravy train. Its enough to make an old man cry.

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Gallup poll reveals large swaths of deranged Americans

December 29, 2011

OK, so this was my try to come up with a funny headline in less than 5 seconds.

But here is what prompted me to do so, which is quite funny: several recent Gallup polls about how Americans identify themselves according to a left-right ideological spectrum.

Gallup Poll

Take a look at this:

How many of the interviewed people think Bachmann is VERY LIBERAL/LIBERAL? 10%.

How many of the interviewed people think Obama is VERY CONSERVATIVE/CONSERVATIVE? 15%!

15%!

Who are these people? What particular planet of the United States are they living in?

More seriously, a partial explanation to these loonies is that the poll does not define the labels for respondents. It just asks them to match their opinions with a particular label. Anyways, I thought it was funny, Michelle Bachmann, very liberal.

Alas, Bachmann continues to trail.

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Ex-gay penguins leave homosexual activists in dismay

December 21, 2011

Toronto Zoo’s ‘Gay’ Penguins Attracted to New Female Partners

Male African penguin companions at the Toronto Zoo, Buddy, left, and Pedro, were separated for mating and appear to have moved on with new female partners.

"When you put things in captivity, odd things happen," Kevin McGowan of the Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology in Ithaca, N.Y., told ABCNews.com. "The way penguins work is they do get paired for a long time. Basically, the only other penguin they care about is their mate, so it’s important for them to find somebody who’s compatible, and if you don’t have a normal upbringing then it’s difficult to say how ‘normal’ they can be."

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Best commentary ever from Matt Barber: Penguins ‘pray away the gay’
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http://www.christiannewstoday.com/Christian_News_Report_900404.html

Those bent on justifying the homosexual lifestyle often claim that there are umpteen million – or somewhere thereabouts – species of "gay" animals in the world. This begs a few questions:

    What?

    Then how do they procreate? If these animals forgo natural mating behavior to, instead, spend nights hooking up in Yellowstone’s public men’s rooms, march in critter "gay pride" parades and decorate their nest in fabulous Art Deco pastels, then wouldn’t their species cease to exist after just one generation? So much for Darwinian evolution.

    Even if such nonsense were true, so what? There are plenty of species in the world that eat their young, too. Animals are animals. Does this mean we should act like them? (Besides, show me one species of animal that engages in the same kind of depraved homosexual conduct that can come only from the mind of man, and I’ll be impressed.)

Still, whenever some animal displays atypical nesting behavior or exhibits quirks that can be remotely called "gay" (We’ve all seen that dog), moral relativists – who desperately seek to justify objectively immoral behavior – will cry: "Look! Animals are gay, too. It must be natural!"

Famous "gay" penguins Buddy and Pedro from the Toronto Zoo are the latest chirpy birds with happy feet to begin eyeballing chicks. They’re now "ex-gay" penguins. (Read about Buddy and Pedro’s "reparative therapy.")

I know. For most of us this elicits little more than a chuckle. Yet there are those who actually believe this twaddle.

Unfortunately, this is all part of liberals’ desperate attempt to dredge up some natural, biological rationalization – of which science has found none – to validate demonstrably unnatural behavior.
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too funny

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Troubled boy, Larry King murdered after intensely sexually harassing other boys

Several of my comments and replies concerning the Larry King murder by his classmate Brandon, after Larry sexually harassed Brandon and other boys.

Another thing I had been thinking about is something King’s father said that he thought Larry didn’t have a homosexuality problem. That could well be true. Larry may have realized though that sexual harassment was an effective weapon he could wield, especially against boys who were physically bigger and stronger than he was. I don’t know, and I’m not saying that’s what happened, but it’s an extremely logical explanation. King might have started to develop a gender disorder and started to have all kinds of psychological problems with masculinity and identifying with being a man (especially given that his life seemed to have been populated with poor or even worse than poor male role models and caretakers). Larry once claimed he had been abused by his father. But because Larry was in the hands of fanatical liberals, instead of properly diagnosing all his psychological problems that were culminating and producing these disordered actions and attitudes in Larry, they cluelessly tell him he was "born that way" and encourage him to be more and more sexually dysfunctional from an emotional and psychological perspective. Larry doesn’t get the therapeutic help he profoundly needs, and voilà, tragedy strikes.

Who are the greatest criminals here? The adults and their destructive normalize homosexuality ideology.

Alessandrareflections at 11:11 AM December 21, 2011

A 2008 study by the APA (American Psychological Association) finds that domestic violence between same sex couples occurs at a rate of approximately 25%.

One in four are violent turds of people. And that’s not counting the ones who viciously harass and assault OTHERS (including many heterosexuals).

Maxx and his pink-nazis on here just want to play the victim card while lying about every single case of sexual violence and harassment where the perpetrator is homosexual or bisexual.

Alessandrareflections at 11:06 AM December 21, 2011
Brandon was not the only boy that Larry had harassed. It was a known problem in the school and it had gone on for quite awhile. Authorities just egged Larry on. So what is Brandon going to feel? Unless he does something, no one will and the harassment and the humiliation will go on forever.

If a homosexual kid had killed a bully after all kinds of harassment, I’d like to see the reaction here. Many would be pleading for the homosexual kid to walk free. That’s why I find those viciously against Brandon so disgusting. They have no ethics and there is no equality under the law with their fanaticism about homosexuality.

Alessandrareflections at 11:05 AM December 21, 2011
I think many here have a vicious mind towards Brandon, because they refuse to acknowledge that if Larry had never harassed Brandon, Larry would be in school right now. If the authorities hadn’t egged Larry to be violent towards others, Brandon wouldn’t have reacted like this. Yes, it would have been a lot better if Brandon had punched Larry in the face and broken a couple of teeth, if that would have stopped the harassment. But clearly being verbally aggressive did not stop Larry, and I doubt that even if Brandon had done some brawl type of violence, Larry would have continued all the same. He was being ENCOURAGED! So in effect, the question is, how can you advocate violence to be inflicted on a boy with impunity, and when this boy then blows up, you turn viciously against him?

I think the entire perspective from liberals in this case is sick, highly irresponsible and negligent.

Alessandrareflections at 11:05 AM December 21, 2011 In this case, Larry was sexually harassing boys, he was being emotionally violent and destructive, will full support of the "authorities," at least the main lesbian turd of asst principal. Brandon was the main target. Apparently you think that you can do violence to anyone and they don’t have any rights. That’s the situation Brandon was the target of. Obviously, a kid with a troubled history and still a KID does not have all the maturity to think clearly about what to do. But who created this situation in the first place? It’s the adults that are the most criminal here–and I bet none will go to prison, but that’s where some of them clearly belong.

Alessandrareflections at 11:13 AM December 21, 2011
"84.6% of LGBT students reported being verbally harassed, 40.1% reported being physically harassed and 18.8% reported being physically assaulted at school in the past year because of their sexual orientation."

What GLSEN, a corrupt homosexual organization, expressly hides is how many of these so-called victims did violence and harassment to others, especially related to their orientation, as in Larry’s case, and especially towards heterosexuals.

Alessandrareflections at 11:17 AM December 21, 2011
If only the homosexual harassers and bullies could be brought to a stop. But no, thanks to slime of liberals, they must cry victim while doing violence to others. If Larry hadn’t been encouraged to sexually harass and humiliate other boys, he would be in school right now.

Alessandrareflections at 10:56 AM December 21, 2011
Get your facts straight. King SEXUALLY HARASSED, DEMEANED, AND HUMILIATED Brandon and other boys multiple times in a way that would land any adult in court.

including:

King also taunted boys in the halls, saying "I know you want me" and was known to make inappropriate comments to boys while they were changing for P.E. class.

This warrants a major adult sexual harassment lawsuit if the people involved were adults.

Alessandrareflections at 10:58 AM December 21, 2011 maxxnsd at 7:42 AM December 21, 2011
Max: I agree, Mike. Brandon has serious mental issues. Sadly, he will receive more than a butt beating in prison.

Max is drooling about the rape of men in prison — it shows how sick your kind of people are

Alessandrareflections at 11:21 AM December 21, 2011
LBGTY, bullies:HA! That is like talking about Necon pacifists! I love it, a bully and hate monger, talking about his worst fear: different lives and ways of living: OUCH!

Actually when you read about the Frank Lombard case, you see that the word "bully" is ridiculous to begin to describe him. He is a vicious homosexual pedophile monster.

Coddled and empowered by liberals who have the torture of a toddler on their bloody hands.

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maxxnsd at 3:11 PM December 20, 2011
There has been a memorial fund set up
for Larry at the following bank.
Lawrence King Memorial Fund

Alessandrareflections: Is it to go to his incompetent father or to sponsor more rape and harassment of boys and young men?

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Alessandrareflections at 3:01 PM December 20, 2011
Adults didn’t just "drop the ball" here. They are criminally responsible for the situation having escalated. They are responsible for not stopping sexual harassment. Brandon did not take anyone’s life in "cold blood. " If this messed up Larry King had not harassed Brandon repeatedly, Brandon would not have picked up a gun.

You just want homosexuals to sexually harass, humiliate and demean everyone and get away with it. Guess who is the bigot?

Alessandrareflections at 2:43 PM December 20, 2011
"The school should have stopped it."

But there was a turd of a lesbian as asst principal! Instead of stopping it, she egged King on to harass more and more the other boys and to become more deformed as an alleged homosexual.

notacalifornian at 6:38 AM December 20, 2011
Something about those who lecture about this killing being cowardly.  It’s predictable that gays, lesbians & self-hating straights would make excuses for Lawrence King ‘touching himself’ in front of the boy who would kill him & Lawrence King proposing to other boys in the bathroom. If some1 abuses you & you do nothing to stop your abuser because of fear, then 1 can say that you deserve the abuse. If some1 is committing criminal abuse against you, then it’s your duty to end the abuse. Brandon McInerney had a right to use any just means to end Lawrence King’s abuse. OK, getting shot in the head is excessive, but Brandon McInerney overreacted to something Lawrence King had no right to do. To suggest that Brandon McInerney should’ve just taken the abuse Lawrence King was doing is evil.

Alessandrareflections : Exactly! What vile people who think they are entitled do emotional violence to others. The body is not the only part of ourselves that deserves respect, in fact our mind and our dignity can be even more important to protect

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Can you imagine if a 14-year-old black boy had been called racial slurs, was repeatedly taunted, harassed, demeaned and disrespected by a white boy with a deformed psychology about race, with full support and collusion from the white assistant principal, and then finally one day, he pulled the trigger on the white boy, that he would receive 21 years of prison?

Never.

Blithe at 5:41 AM December 20, 2011
Yeah, I can’t imagine that. But there is a difference between aggressive flirting and racism. Nice try.

Alessandrareflections : Is that why you sexually harass people and are surprised if they sue you in court for it and get an award for millions in damages? just because you were "flirting"…
"aggressive flirting" ! hah

do you also call male sexual abuse "man/boy love"?

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Alessandrareflections at 3:33 AM December 20, 2011

When an assistant principal who is supposed to protect children from every type of violence, does the opposite, enables the perpetrator, abandons the victim, lets violence escalate to very high-risk situations, it is the adult who has failed most of all, and has the most criminal mind, exactly because they are an adult and are legally in charge of the children.

Does anyone think kids should be routinely damaged emotionally and psychologically in their school environment? If the environment, meaning the slime of adults in the school, condemns a kid to be tormented, bullied, and abused, by their neglect and collusion with the bullies, it’s a natural instinct to fight back to stop the abuse. A kid with troubled past and all kinds of problems may think to pick up a gun.

Two lives ruined by a slime of a lesbian assistant principal who coddled and promoted the sexual harassment, neglecting and abandoning the victim to increasing levels of distress, anguish and humiliation.

Two lives ruined by society’s destructive homosexual agenda.

And what action did liberals take in regard to this slime of a lesbian asst principal? They gave her a promotion! Just like in the Catholic Abuse scandal, shift them around.

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"you think murder is justified in cases of high-school social problems?"

Alessandra: When an adult who is supposed to protect children from every type of violence, does the opposite, enables the perpetrator, abandons the victim, lets violence escalate to very high-risk situations, it is the adult who has failed most of all, and has the most criminal mind, exactly because they are an adult and are legally in charge of the children.

Do you think kids should be routinely damaged emotionally and psychologically in their school environment? If the environment, meaning the slime of adults in the school, condemn a kid to be tormented, bullied, and abused, by their neglect and collusion with the bullies, it’s a natural instinct to fight back to stop the abuse. A kid with troubled past and all kinds of problems may think to pick up a gun. It’s not a question of being justified, but of people like you getting through the ugly, dense mind of yours that you nor anyone else has a right to inflict damage, pain, and suffering to others in a school environment.

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Reply to a vicious person who wanted Brandon to go to jail for life:

Do you think that if a man was attempting to rape me, I picked a gun and shot him, that I should go to prison for 21 years?

Do you think that if a man had attempted to rape me, I ran away, told authorities, no one did anything, then the man threatened to rape me again, but did not immediately attempt, and I killed him, that I should go to prison for 21 years?

Do you think that if a man had attempted to rape me, I ran away , told authorities, no one did anything, then the man continued to threaten to rape me again, but did not immediately attempt, that I should live under the threat of rape for the rest of my life? And if I should kill him, that I should go to prison for 21 years?

In this case, Larry was sexually harassing boys, he was being emotionally violent and destructive, will full support of the "authorities," at least the main lesbian turd of asst principal. Brandon was the main target. Apparently you think that you can do violence to anyone and they don’t have any rights. That’s the situation Brandon was the target of. Obviously, a kid with a troubled history and still a KID does not have all the maturity to think clearly about what to do. But who created this situation in the first place? It’s the adults that are the most criminal here–and I bet none will go to prison, but that’s where some of them clearly belong.

I think you have a vicious mind towards this boy, because you refuse to acknowledge that if Larry had never harassed Brandon, Larry would be in school right now. If the authorities hadn’t egged Larry to be violent towards others, Brandon wouldn’t have reacted like this. Yes, it would have been a lot better if Brandon had punched Larry in the face and broken a couple of teeth, if that would have stopped the harassment. But clearly being verbally aggressive did not stop Larry, and I doubt that even if Brandon had done some brawl type of violence, Larry would have continued all the same. He was being ENCOURAGED! So in effect, the question is, how can you advocate violence to be inflicted on a boy with impunity, and when this boy then blows up, you turn viciously against him?

I think your entire perspective in this case is sick, highly irresponsible and negligent.

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Can you imagine if a 14-year-old girl had been repeatedly taunted, sexually harassed, demeaned and disrespected by a boy with a deformed psychology about sexuality, with full support and collusion from the assistant principal, and then finally one day, she pulled the trigger on the boy, that she would receive 21 years of prison?

Never.

In this case, one should ask why isn’t this slime of lesbian assistant principal in prison, since she promoted the profound sexual harassment of a boy and prevented Brandon from having a decent educational environment ?

Sexual harassment is a highly destructive behavior. And there are countless cases of homosexuals sexually harassing heterosexuals, both teens and adults. And in this case, we have the adult enabler, the slime of a lesbian. This is what happens when you put homosexuals in positions of power, especially concerning children. Any and all crimes or harmful behaviors are coddled and/or covered up.

Sexuality is everybody’s business. This is also another good example of how a homosexual agenda is destructive to society, putting two children at horrible risk.

Who is safe with slime of homosexuals like Epstein? Certainly no one.

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Do you think that if a man was attempting to rape me, I picked a gun and shot him, that I should go to prison for 21 years? Do you think that if a man had attempted to rape me, I ran away, told authorities, no one did anything, then the man threatened to rape me again, but did not immediately attempt, and I killed him, that I should go to prison for 21 years? Do you think that if a man had attempted to rape me, I ran away , told authorities, no one did anything, then the man continued to threaten to rape me again, but did not immediately attempt, that I should live under the threat of rape for the rest of my life? And if I should kill him, that I should go to prison for 21 years? In this case, Larry was sexually harassing boys, he was being emotionally violent and destructive, will full support of the "authorities," at least the main lesbian turd of asst principal. Brandon was the main target. Apparently you think that you can do violence to anyone and they don’t have any rights. That’s the situation Brandon was the target of. Obviously, a kid with a troubled history and still a KID does not have all the maturity to think clearly about what to do. But who created this situation in the first place? It’s the adults that are the most criminal here–and I bet none will go to prison, but that’s where some of them clearly belong.

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"I find it disturbing that people are justifying what this kid did because he felt sexually harassed."

First, Brandon didn’t "feel" he was being sexually harassed. He WAS and so were other boys. Second, if a man had done the same things that Larry did to women in their school or work environment, it would warrant a lawsuit. But children cannot hire lawyers, they depend on the turd of adults in this case (apparently all liberals with a homosexual agenda).

The boys were not in a bar, they were at school. Sexual harassment was an ongoing problem with Larry.

"If I go into a bar tonight and get sexually harassed by some man, do I get permission to shoot him in the head just because he makes me feel uncomfortable?"

No. But it’s different if you have a man continuously humiliating and harassing you in your school or work environment, you complain, authorities do nothing, the harassment doesn’t stop, the escalation of the conflict rises and you kill him. This is very different than if you walk into a bar and for no reason at all shoot a man in the head.

If the man had never done emotional violence to you, you wouldn’t have shot him. I’m not arguing that sexual harassment should now be solved with a gun. But what is disturbing is to see how many people refuse to acknowledge that emotional violence is serious and it is damaging. On a broader level, many vulnerable kids are harmed profoundly and for years into their adult life because of emotionally damaging experiences suffered at school.

It’s disgusting to see that liberals refuse to face that violence begets violence.

Stop teaching kids to behave like sexual pigs and the violence stops there.

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Blogsome is going to DIE in three days!

December 2, 2011

OK, now if this blog service didn’t have a host of problems as it is, I have just received notice that it’s going to go out, good-bye, kaput in three days.

Crap.

Now I have to find another home for my blog. And how to transfer everything? Double, triple crap.

Grrrr.

What a nuisance.

Lately, I’ve been too busy to blog here.

I’ve been following more or less Penn State and the other breaking sex abuse scandals, but alas, I’ve been too busy to write here.

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Update Dec 6, 2011

Hmm? Blog is still running… False alarm? Someone hacked into blogsome? They are late in demolishing the service?

Who knows… everything is still normal…

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Update Dec 19, 2011

It’s still here! But I’ve been too busy to blog, mostly commenting around the Net.

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Penn State - broken bits and pieces

November 12, 2011

I’ve been reading a lot about Penn State, and commenting on news articles at their respective sites, and that doesn’t leave me time to write here.

A few important points:

The MSM pundits have begun to change from their white glove treatment of Paterno and McQueary, and call into question their criminal cover-up of the alleged abuse, regardless of law book technicalities about mandatory reporting.

PSU pro-Paterno rowdy display generally condemned all around (I supposed we ought to be pleasantly surprised, given the selfish, ignorant masses of people that make up a lot of the US and the MSM).

Gov. Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania, who is on the PSU board, was a long-time "enemy" of former PSU president Spanier. Corbett wanted to cut funding to PSU by 50%, Spanier fought back and won. PSU’s funding was cut by 20% in the end. I am suspicious of Corbett because he is the man who previously directed the investigation and failed to do anything concretely for two years:

Corbett was the state attorney general who opened the investigation into former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky in 2009. Corbett was elected governor a year later.

[However, after a year, Corbett gave the reigns of the investigation to someone else - not identified yet, as far as I read - so that he could run for governor. That principal question to be asked about Corbett is:

Here is where I see Corbett has a problem. Because he was part of the investigation, he knew about the danger Sandusky posed to children. After he became governor, he was a member of the Penn State Board of Trustees. Regardless of whether the governor normally attends meetings, he was a member of Penn State’s governing body with actual knowledge of the investigation and allegations since January of 2011 and he continued to allow Sandusky to have access to Penn State facilities, attend games, etc. for almost two years. If there were any victims in that time period, Corbett is just as culpable as anyone else in this.]

At a press event, Corbett said he was “personally disappointed” by a lack of action on Paterno’s part in the Penn State sex-abuse scandal, and hinted the Board of Trustees may take action against Paterno.

Corbett had a long career prosecuting child-sex crimes before he became state attorney general and then governor.

But when asked directly by a reporter on Wednesday if Joe Paterno specifically had a moral responsibility in the case, Corbett paused for about 15 seconds before he offered a carefully worded response.

“I have been observing what all you have been saying, I have been observing what the national media has been saying. There is a legal issue, there is a moral issue. I am personally disappointed in the lack of action. And I had to contain that for the last two plus years,” Corbett said. “The board is going to address that.”

When asked to address his point about “lack of action,” Corbett said “They’re going to address [it], I believe if you look at what the board is saying, they are looking at what happened.”

Corbett wouldn’t comment on the specifics of the investigation he started in 2009. He said then Center County district attorney Michael Madeira ask him to investigate Sandusky, citing a conflict of interest.

There is a LOT of information right there. Corbett had a long career prosecuting child-sex crimes. So, this gives the impression that he actually is a good prosecutor, who doesn’t shy away from prosecuting child sex abuse perpetrators. But two years of investigation with events that go back for more than a decade and nothing? Exactly what had they discovered? Why did it take two years for this grand jury indictment? Who’s side is Corbett on? He said, "I am personally disappointed in the lack of action. And I had to contain that for the last two plus years." "Personally disappointed"? What kind of a statement is that? What else is he "containing?"

Update Nov. 19, 2011:

An article discussing Corbett’s role–and putting up a considerable defense for him.

"I don’t know how in the world you can place this on the governor," he said. "One, he’s the one who initiated the investigation, he’s the one who directed the investigation. He’s the one who nominates Frank Noonan, makes him state police commissioner (and he) puts additional state troopers on this case. Tom Corbett’s the one that brought this case. To say, he didn’t do enough … is ridiculous."

Mr. Harley said he knows of no evidence "that Sandusky abused anybody since the grand jury investigation began."

He said Mr. Corbett, as attorney general, started a "child predator unit (that) has arrested 297 child predators" and is "the most effective child predator unit in the entire United States."

"Tom Corbett is the guy that started the investigation; he initiated it, he had the guts to take it," Mr. Harley said. "He didn’t say, ‘I’m not taking the conflict of interest, this is too controversial.’ He followed the evidence wherever it led."

(end of update)

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Then, there is this:

Penn State coach accused of pimping out boys to rich donors -

Mark Madden, a Pittsburgh sports reporter and radio personality, claims that Jerry Sandusky used his Second Mile charity to pimp out young boys for rich donors. THANK YOU, Mr. Madden! YOU deserve a medal!

And thank you the media for belatedly, but finally, investigating what a corrupt football department, university, and local investigators have buried for more than 10 years. It appears Sandusky traded in an early retirement for a cover-up.

Let’s hope the MSM will not all forget this case a week from today, as they have the habit of doing.

From 2001 through 2007, Penn State’s former defensive coordinator was listed as one of the organization’s officers and was often paid as an "independent contractor for professional services" for his "consulting." His compensation in 2007 was broken down like this: $36,251 for program services; $8892 for management and general; and $11857 for fundraising. Program services are expenses related to fulfilling the mission of the organization.

The organization repeatedly listed the number of hours per week Sandusky and other directors devoted to their position as "0." Sandusky — who was not listed on the charity’s 2009 tax form — is the only director who was compensated, however.

And this: Dottie Sandusky, wife of Jerry Sandusky-
Your husband has a basement bedroom in your home. He has young boys sleep over in your home. He sleeps in hotels where you’re never present. And when you find out about all of these allegations, you take in a workout day with your husband at the local health club. On page 21 of the grand jury report, Dottie Sandusky apparently tried to contact one of the victims just ahead of his appearance before the grand jury. This looks very much like an attempt to tamper with a grand jury witness.

My guess is that the woman is a monster just like her husband. But only an investigation will tell.

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The Penn State scandal - the ugliness of human beings

November 9, 2011

Vile.

Sickening.

But ever so telling and so symbolic.

Many op-eds and articles and comments have been written in a few days expressing many of my feelings (maybe I will copy some of the best ones later, because I have no time now). This case is only beginning. Victims that we hadn’t heard of before are coming forward. They deserve praise and our support. An investigation by the University has just been launched.

My main questions right now, as for many others, are:

- who knew what and when?

- the Gricar mystery - I call foul play (even if he has disappeared to Tahiti or the Caribbean and isn’t dead) - the fact that his hard drive disappeared is too much of a coincidence, having no other major suspect of an enemy that wanted to kill him.

Gricar went missing in April 2005. The murky circumstances surrounding his disappearance — an abandoned car, a laptop recovered months later in a river without a hard drive, his body was never found… The next day, Gricar’s Mini Cooper was found in a parking lot in Lewisburg, about 50 miles from his home in Bellefonte. Gricar’s cellphone was in the car, but not his laptop, wallet or keys, which were never recovered. Months later, the laptop was found in the Susquehanna River without its hard drive, which was discovered later. It was too damaged to yield any information. On the fourth anniversary of his disappearance, investigators revealed that a search of his home computer yielded a history of Internet searches for phrases like “how to wreck a hard drive,” according to a report at the time in The Centre Daily Times.

Update Nov 11 on Gricar: I saw this comment right here: "or in 2005 Gricar realized the enormity of the Sandusky situation and fled before it was too late to save himself aka Jail." To me, so far, it’s most logical explanation to the Gricar mystery. There’s only three possibilities: suicide, murder, disappearing by his own volition. Regarding suicide, as someone else said, a suicide of this type of guy without a body and no known personal problems? No way. Murder: If someone wanted to kill him, it would be too much of a coincidence that Gricar had been searching for information on how to destroy his hard drive exactly at the same time. Also, a murder without a body? His car and his computer are found, but not his dead body? Doesn’t add up. Yes, maybe his body is rotting away in some inaccessible place. I would have been tempted to believe murder if Gricar had pursued charges when he first obtained the confession of Sandusky to one of the victim’s mother. He did nothing. And there is no good explanation for why he refused to bring charges to Sandusky then. So far then, here is my guess: he was given a lot of money to disappear and destroy his computer which contained key information about the Sandusky investigation, which involved some very powerful guilty men in criminal ways.

- are people going to mobilize to change the laws where needed in all states?

People in every other state MUST reform their laws to make it obligatory for anyone who witnesses or reasonably suspects sexual abuse to report it to the police. (There are plenty of states which are like PA). And the law must be retroactive too to make it mandatory for anyone to report abuse they have witnessed in the past, IMO (perhaps 5 or 10 years? Something to be discussed).

Unless people act in concrete measures, simply punishing two or three individuals will change nothing for other victims out there.

Furthermore, not being a lawyer at times like this is ever so frustrating, but how can anyone even accept that after aiding and abetting in the sexual abuse of countless children, by silence, collusion, and cover-up, all that happens to criminal individuals like Paterno, McQueary, and Spanier is that they RESIGN from some freaking job? Merely resign?

What and go on vacation using their millions of dollars, after destroying countless kids?

It’s JAIL or a multi-million dollar lawsuit and shame forever.

Matt Rourke/AP

Lauren Acquaviva (l), accompanied by her husband and son, protest outside an administrative building on the Penn State campus Tuesday in State College. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/joe-paterno-complete-penn-state-season-s-finished-court-public-opinion-article-1.975074#ixzz1dEm1NQUI

Today, already a few days after the scandal broke, is the first time I am reading people start to say something in this regard.

Investigators in Pennsylvania want anyone with information about the sex scandal involving a former Penn State football coach to come forward. Jerry Sandusky should be in court Wednesday on child sex abuse charges. He’s accused of assaulting eight underage boys while he worked at the school.

Athletic Director Tim Curley and University Vice President Gary Schultz turned themselves in to police Monday. They’re accused of covering up the scandal.

Attorney Michael Wells says those administrators and more could be liable. He says the university could be liable as well. He says the investigation could lead to criminal and civil charges.

There’s at least ten people seriously involved in this case, aside from the University and the "Second Mile" kid’s foundation as institutions.

And it’s too early to know what to make of this, but I don’t like the smell of it:

Gov. Tom Corbett will attend Friday’s meeting of the trustees and will probably speak publicly about the sex-abuse scandal in the coming days, his spokesman said Tuesday.

Press secretary Kevin Harley said Corbett has so far withheld comment partly because he formerly directed the investigation as the state’s attorney general, the job he held before January.

Do I understand this correctly? The man who previously directed the investigation and failed to discover anything concretely and to bring anyone to justice is now going to attend the trustees’ meeting in his position as governor of the state?

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Update

You couldn’t make this stuff up, even if you were John Grisham:

Q: What is the history and meaning of Penn’s motto?

A: The motto of the University, Leges Sine Moribus Vanae, means:

"Laws without morals are useless (in vain)."

It comes from the longer quotation from Horace, "Quid leges sine moribus vanae proficient?" the sense of which is "of what avail are empty laws without (good) morals?"

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Update: another legal aspect - federal law

U.S. Rep. Pat Meehan, R-7, of Upper Darby, sent a letter to U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan on Tuesday requesting a probe into sex abuse allegations surrounding Jerry Sandusky, a former Penn State University assistant football coach.

“Given the disturbing nature of these allegations, I am writing to respectfully urge you direct the Department of Education to conduct a full investigation into whether federal law was broken in the failure to properly report allegations of sexual abuse at Penn State,” Meehan, a former U.S. Attorney, wrote in a letter to Duncan.

Two Penn State officials, Senior Vice President Gary Schultz and Athletic Director Tim Curley, surrendered on charges that they failed to alert police to the complaint about Sandusky. They were notified about Sandusky’s alleged behavior back in 2002 when a graduate assistant reportedly saw Sandusky sexually assaulting a young boy in the team’s locker room shower.

Meehan questioned whether failure to report the 2002 allegations broke Penn State’s own reporting methods and whether the Clery Act was violated.

The Clery Act requires colleges and universities to publish an annual security report about all criminal offenses reported to campus security authorities or local police agencies.

“Had the 2002 allegations been properly reported, investigated and disclosed, the later instances of abuse could have been prevented and future victims protected,” Meehan wrote.

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Update:

Child Protective Services Law

Under Pennsylvania’s Child Protective Services Law, certain individuals, including teachers and school administrators, have a legal obligation to immediately report suspected child abuse to child protective services or law enforcement, or to a "person in charge" (supervisor), who must then report the alleged abuse to the authorities. The reporting must be honest. When in writing, the reporting must also include known information about the nature and extent of the suspected abuse, along with other material details.

Within one day of learning from McQueary of the alleged abuse, Paterno notified Curley, his boss. By doing so, Paterno satisfied an obligation to immediately report to a person in charge.

On the other hand, one could read the Child Protective Services Law to classify Paterno as himself a person in charge of McQueary and as one who had a subsequent obligation to report to the authorities. Still, Curley’s status as Paterno’s boss likely insulates Paterno from liability, at least for failing to notify child protective services or law enforcement.

Paterno may have nonetheless violated the Child Protective Services Law by failing to tell Curley the specific story as told by McQueary and by failing to provide known information about the nature and extent of the suspected abuse. As discussed above, if McQueary’s testimony is true, Paterno appeared to downplay the severity of the incident while speaking with Curley. His portrayal seemed incomplete, if not outright disingenuous. Also, while Paterno made his initial report of the suspected child abuse to Curley by phone, any written communications would have required the known information.

In Paterno’s defense, law enforcement authorities have indicated that, in their current view, while Paterno appeared to do the bare minimum, he technically satisfied his legal obligations under the Child Protective Services Law. Whether that viewpoint proves sustainable could depend on the development of new and more incriminating facts and public pressure.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_mccann/11/09/joe.paterno/index.html#ixzz1dEaBd7SM

Nail the b******. Scum.

And what the heck went on in that Second Mile foundation, for goodness sakes?

Maybe other people witnessed crimes there?

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Update Nov 11, 2011

My latest comments:

Get the facts:

If there were any justice in the world, at least ten people would go to jail for this horrific cover-up which has been going on for more than 10 years. That includes McQueary, Paterno, Curley, and Schulz. Sandusky deserves the death penalty.

Child advocate Wendy Murphy talks with Sharpton about Penn State:

What kind of a person walks in a 10-year old child being raped by a full grown man and WALKS AWAY? After McQueary reported rape to Paterno and supervisors - all they did was to take away the KEYS from Sandusky. None contacted the police.

I really recommend this news clip:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/45248713#45248713

And why is no one focusing on the top management of the Second Mile foundation? What did they know and what are they lying about?

Cancel the damn football season. Hang your heads in shame.

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This is looking more and more like a cover-up in the exact proportions of the Catholic Church: huge. Multiple people involved, going all the way to the top, maybe involving previous investigators, and who all threw countless children under the bus to preserve their grotesque football privileges.

Aside from the big university honchos, these people knew, saw or were involved early on:

1998
DET. SCHREFFLER
DET RALSTON
INVESTIGATOR JERRY LAURO
DA RAY GRICAR

What happened then? Is anyone investigating what happened in 1998?

2000
JANITOR J. CALHOUN SAW IT HAPPENING
RON PETROSKY ALSO SAW IT HAPPENING
SUPERVISOR JAY WITHERITE

NONE OF THESE PEOPLE CAME FORWARD (except Calhoun, who did, but whose role is quite tragic in the story and is now too old with dementia to testify!) NO ONE SAID A WORD

And why is no one focusing on the top management of the Second Mile foundation? What did they know and what are they lying about?

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"Paterno and everyone else say in testimony that Mcquery was NOT specific in what he told them in 2002. "

Your little "I’m too stupid to pursue an alleged sexual assault" doesn’t cut it. You are told of an allegation. What do you do? First thing: you ask what happened IN DETAIL. No one who is told of a serious crime allegation is going to sit there and go "hm OK, you didn’t tell me any details so I’m NOT going to ask you about any." Paterno is one heap of criminal slime.

He belongs in jail. They have covered this thing up for more than 10 years.

Then: you find out who the child is. you call police, you contact the parents (and refer child to victim counselors), you report to people above you.

You follow up with everyone involved to make sure you don’t have a pedophile on your staff or in your environment.

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Other important things that I’ve read:

Rumors from the local journalist (or one of them who first broke the story): Sandusky was pimping boys to rich donors.

The story also exploded thanks to the courage of Victim #1, who pursued it.

Some lawmakers are starting to make public declarations they are looking into their mandatory reporting laws for child abuse.

Some students at PSU are publicly laughing and making jokes to their peers about the sexual abuse that allegedly took place, aside from their pathetic temper tantrum yesterday night, "rioting" for JoePed.

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